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	<title>Comments on: [Chinese]给UTM泼点冷水 &#8211; 防火墙-UTM-IPS之三国争霸</title>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Telecom,Security &#38; P2P » [Chinese]给UTM泼点冷水 – 防火墙-UTM-IPS之三国争霸 -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Telecom,Security &#38; P2P » [Chinese]给UTM泼点冷水 – 防火墙-UTM-IPS之三国争霸 -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Mike Dalton, Richard Zhao. Richard Zhao said: It&#039;s interesting that #UTM market growth was lower than that of #IPS at #China. It turns out my forecast: http://bit.ly/2Hf46C #security [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Mike Dalton, Richard Zhao. Richard Zhao said: It&#39;s interesting that #UTM market growth was lower than that of #IPS at #China. It turns out my forecast: <a href="http://bit.ly/2Hf46C" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2Hf46C</a> #security [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Zhao</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/comment-page-1/#comment-36228</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Zhao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;It&#039;s interesting that #UTM market growth was lower than that of #IPS at #China. It turns out my forecast: http://bit.ly/2Hf46C #security&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/zhaol/status/5288824937&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/tb/sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/&quot;&gt;Topsy page&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">It&#39;s interesting that #UTM market growth was lower than that of #IPS at #China. It turns out my forecast: <a href="http://bit.ly/2Hf46C" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2Hf46C</a> #security</span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/zhaol/status/5288824937">Original tweet</a>, <a href="http://topsy.com/tb/sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/">Topsy page</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Mike Dalton</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/comment-page-1/#comment-36227</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Dalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @zhaol: It&#039;s interesting #UTM market growth  lower than that of #IPS at #China. It turns out my forecast: http://bit.ly/2Hf46C #security&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/60md/status/5288924037&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/tb/sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/&quot;&gt;Topsy page&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @zhaol: It&#39;s interesting #UTM market growth  lower than that of #IPS at #China. It turns out my forecast: <a href="http://bit.ly/2Hf46C" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2Hf46C</a> #security</span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/60md/status/5288924037">Original tweet</a>, <a href="http://topsy.com/tb/sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/">Topsy page</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Richard Zhao</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/comment-page-1/#comment-36225</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Zhao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;It&#039;s interesting that #UTM market growth was lower than that of #IPS at #China. It turns out my forecast: http://bit.ly/2Hf46C #security&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/zhaol/status/5288824937&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/tb/sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/&quot;&gt;Topsy page&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">It&#39;s interesting that #UTM market growth was lower than that of #IPS at #China. It turns out my forecast: <a href="http://bit.ly/2Hf46C" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2Hf46C</a> #security</span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/zhaol/status/5288824937">Original tweet</a>, <a href="http://topsy.com/tb/sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/">Topsy page</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/comment-page-1/#comment-35484</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seablue 讲的非常好。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seablue 讲的非常好。</p>
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		<title>By: seablue</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/comment-page-1/#comment-35483</link>
		<dc:creator>seablue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UTM并不适用于所有场合, 但确实有存在的理由,而且在增长,而国内多数厂商没有核心价值,在帮人家搬箱子,一直这样下去长不大,做不强. 业内人士为之忧心.
谁之过?  大家都有自己的苦衷,
但愿国内公司能找到比较有发展前景的竞争优势,比如技术上有优势, 或市场能力强,当然两者俱佳最好. 这样国内安全业内人士也就有更光明的未来--技术领先的公司,技术人员的待遇就会好... 话说回来,还得靠我们自己努力呀. 不能指望突然一天 有个本土企业非常强,然后把我们召进去,好吃好喝的供着. 还是祝愿有识之士闯出这样的企业来.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UTM并不适用于所有场合, 但确实有存在的理由,而且在增长,而国内多数厂商没有核心价值,在帮人家搬箱子,一直这样下去长不大,做不强. 业内人士为之忧心.<br />
谁之过?  大家都有自己的苦衷,<br />
但愿国内公司能找到比较有发展前景的竞争优势,比如技术上有优势, 或市场能力强,当然两者俱佳最好. 这样国内安全业内人士也就有更光明的未来&#8211;技术领先的公司,技术人员的待遇就会好&#8230; 话说回来,还得靠我们自己努力呀. 不能指望突然一天 有个本土企业非常强,然后把我们召进去,好吃好喝的供着. 还是祝愿有识之士闯出这样的企业来.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/comment-page-1/#comment-33597</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>一石激起千层浪，这篇稿子引来很多同行关注，Hongpei的评论更是入木三分，呵呵。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>一石激起千层浪，这篇稿子引来很多同行关注，Hongpei的评论更是入木三分，呵呵。</p>
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		<title>By: Hongpei</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/comment-page-1/#comment-33592</link>
		<dc:creator>Hongpei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>关于国内信息安全厂商争相OEM国外产品的反思
http://falcon.i170.cn/Article_112562
请参考</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>关于国内信息安全厂商争相OEM国外产品的反思<br />
<a href="http://falcon.i170.cn/Article_112562" rel="nofollow">http://falcon.i170.cn/Article_112562</a><br />
请参考</p>
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		<title>By: Hongpei</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/comment-page-1/#comment-33539</link>
		<dc:creator>Hongpei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>非常支持赵博的观点! 我以前也写过一个不看好UTM类产品的文章:
http://falcon.i170.cn/Article_29248
,借用一下赵博的地盘,供讨论吧!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>非常支持赵博的观点! 我以前也写过一个不看好UTM类产品的文章:<br />
<a href="http://falcon.i170.cn/Article_29248" rel="nofollow">http://falcon.i170.cn/Article_29248</a><br />
,借用一下赵博的地盘,供讨论吧!</p>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2008/11/07/firewall-utm-ips/comment-page-1/#comment-33527</link>
		<dc:creator>billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If possible, we&#039;ve often heard that the OEM Partnership with the world&#039;s leader security company XXX or the top leader security vendor(eg. Fortinet, Kaspersky, Symantec) is stronger than ever before. Our UTM product provides comprehensive sets of IT security policy with powerful combination...

God bless us, could you provide the truth? 

However one possibility is that if IT security policy is only available as an OEM UTM device or an embedded security appliance?

The answer is definitely &quot;no&quot;.

How about your idea?

More suggestions needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If possible, we&#8217;ve often heard that the OEM Partnership with the world&#8217;s leader security company XXX or the top leader security vendor(eg. Fortinet, Kaspersky, Symantec) is stronger than ever before. Our UTM product provides comprehensive sets of IT security policy with powerful combination&#8230;</p>
<p>God bless us, could you provide the truth? </p>
<p>However one possibility is that if IT security policy is only available as an OEM UTM device or an embedded security appliance?</p>
<p>The answer is definitely &#8220;no&#8221;.</p>
<p>How about your idea?</p>
<p>More suggestions needed.</p>
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