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	<title>Comments on: Skype’s Road to China</title>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2005/09/26/skypes-road-to-china/comment-page-1/#comment-32816</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it&#039;s a grey area, actually, more and more China users have been using Skype for PC to PC and PC to PSTN phone communications. It&#039;s by far cheaper than traditional long distance call, and even cheaper than other VoIP calls.  Only the SkypeOut, but also SkypeIn have become very popular in China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it&#8217;s a grey area, actually, more and more China users have been using Skype for PC to PC and PC to PSTN phone communications. It&#8217;s by far cheaper than traditional long distance call, and even cheaper than other VoIP calls.  Only the SkypeOut, but also SkypeIn have become very popular in China.</p>
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		<title>By: hi2005</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2005/09/26/skypes-road-to-china/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>hi2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Juanni, thanks for your comment. I visited vbuzzer.com just now. at the first glance, i can master much of this product/technology. does it use some open standards, e.g SIP, or Jabber, or something? is it based on P2P tech?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Juanni, thanks for your comment. I visited vbuzzer.com just now. at the first glance, i can master much of this product/technology. does it use some open standards, e.g SIP, or Jabber, or something? is it based on P2P tech?</p>
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		<title>By: Xiu Juanni</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2005/09/26/skypes-road-to-china/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Xiu Juanni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skype using non-standard protocol and it&#039;s not easy to be controlled by network admin. That&#039;s something good or not good. Internet itself can not lost controll. If all software using that way to open back door, take as much as possible of bandwith, internet will be break down. For this case, I believe govenment more concern that the content of people using skype can not be mornitored. Most of other provider did not get banned even it&#039;s not a small one like vbuzzer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skype using non-standard protocol and it&#8217;s not easy to be controlled by network admin. That&#8217;s something good or not good. Internet itself can not lost controll. If all software using that way to open back door, take as much as possible of bandwith, internet will be break down. For this case, I believe govenment more concern that the content of people using skype can not be mornitored. Most of other provider did not get banned even it&#8217;s not a small one like vbuzzer.</p>
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		<title>By: zhaol</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2005/09/26/skypes-road-to-china/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>zhaol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skype 宣布七家合作伙伴 
2006/01/06

　　Skype公司昨天宣布同七家消费电子产品公司签署协议，共同提供方便用户使用的Skype电话产品。这些公司和产品分别是Creative的无需电脑的Skype电话，D-link的USB口电话适配器，IPEVO Skype无绳电话，柯达的图像共享系统，NETGEAR的一款产品以及松下的Skype无绳电话。Skype公司表示通过和这些设备制造商以及零售商RadioShack的合作，他们将为用户打造全面的Skype电话解决方案。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skype 宣布七家合作伙伴<br />
2006/01/06</p>
<p>　　Skype公司昨天宣布同七家消费电子产品公司签署协议，共同提供方便用户使用的Skype电话产品。这些公司和产品分别是Creative的无需电脑的Skype电话，D-link的USB口电话适配器，IPEVO Skype无绳电话，柯达的图像共享系统，NETGEAR的一款产品以及松下的Skype无绳电话。Skype公司表示通过和这些设备制造商以及零售商RadioShack的合作，他们将为用户打造全面的Skype电话解决方案。</p>
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		<title>By: VoIPWiki Blog &#187; 2005 VoIP Year In Review</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2005/09/26/skypes-road-to-china/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>VoIPWiki Blog &#187; 2005 VoIP Year In Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sep 8: China bans Skype Out in Shenzhen. China Telecom fired a warning shot across Skype’s bow telling them they have chosen the wrong partner in China three days after Skype announced a joint venture with Tom.com. Tom.com is China’s third largest Internet portal, but it is based in Hong Kong and lacks strong ties with the Chinese central government, crucial for obtaining telecom approvals. Skype refused to listen and went ahead with the joint venture anyway. Telecom, Security and P2P [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sep 8: China bans Skype Out in Shenzhen. China Telecom fired a warning shot across Skype’s bow telling them they have chosen the wrong partner in China three days after Skype announced a joint venture with Tom.com. Tom.com is China’s third largest Internet portal, but it is based in Hong Kong and lacks strong ties with the Chinese central government, crucial for obtaining telecom approvals. Skype refused to listen and went ahead with the joint venture anyway. Telecom, Security and P2P [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Telecom, Security and P2P &#187; [Chinese]Skype抛出两种运营商合作模式 打通三网融合 zz</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2005/09/26/skypes-road-to-china/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Telecom, Security and P2P &#187; [Chinese]Skype抛出两种运营商合作模式 打通三网融合 zz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 05:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 如前面的预测，Skype果然开始了与国内运营商的合作谈判，但是谈判会如何进行呢？国际上，将会越来越多的大大小小的厂商会推出基于P2P技术的各种新产品，竞争地位的运营商推出相应的应用来挑战主导运营商，都会全力来赶这趟P2P大潮。电信和网通两大主导固网运营商在信产部条文保护时间内，必须尽快研究拿出战略性的、全局性的对策，并迅速执行落实，不能停留在试探性的、测试性的“控制”活动上。疏导不受控业务的同时，开拓可控的P2P业务平台，以及相应的计费运营模式。时间越来越紧迫了。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 如前面的预测，Skype果然开始了与国内运营商的合作谈判，但是谈判会如何进行呢？国际上，将会越来越多的大大小小的厂商会推出基于P2P技术的各种新产品，竞争地位的运营商推出相应的应用来挑战主导运营商，都会全力来赶这趟P2P大潮。电信和网通两大主导固网运营商在信产部条文保护时间内，必须尽快研究拿出战略性的、全局性的对策，并迅速执行落实，不能停留在试探性的、测试性的“控制”活动上。疏导不受控业务的同时，开拓可控的P2P业务平台，以及相应的计费运营模式。时间越来越紧迫了。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Telecom, Security and P2P &#187; Comment to &#8220;Skype Blocked at China&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2005/09/26/skypes-road-to-china/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Telecom, Security and P2P &#187; Comment to &#8220;Skype Blocked at China&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] At a previous post, &#8220;Skype&#8217;s road to China&#8220;, I introduced my view point of Skype at China, not bright as they are at other lands, due to the restrictions of the regulations and market circumstances. Along with the emerging technology/product from Verso, the &#8220;blocking of PC-to-phone&#8221;, ie. SkypeOut, was reported to be blocked at Shenzhen and other three cities at China. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] At a previous post, &#8220;Skype&#8217;s road to China&#8220;, I introduced my view point of Skype at China, not bright as they are at other lands, due to the restrictions of the regulations and market circumstances. Along with the emerging technology/product from Verso, the &#8220;blocking of PC-to-phone&#8221;, ie. SkypeOut, was reported to be blocked at Shenzhen and other three cities at China. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2005/09/26/skypes-road-to-china/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 01:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Boaz,

thanks for your interests at my blog. generally speaking, there are not restrictions from laws and technology filtering by telco operators for PC to PC voice communications. VoIP over 3G, GRPS, WLAN, WiMax, and etc. is technically feasible and allowed.  FYI,

Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Boaz,</p>
<p>thanks for your interests at my blog. generally speaking, there are not restrictions from laws and technology filtering by telco operators for PC to PC voice communications. VoIP over 3G, GRPS, WLAN, WiMax, and etc. is technically feasible and allowed.  FYI,</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Boaz Zilberman</title>
		<link>http://sbin.cn/blog/2005/09/26/skypes-road-to-china/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Boaz Zilberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Richard,

I am trying to explore regulatory problems in implementing VoIP technology over GPRS and UMTS networks.
The &#039;saying&#039; in Europe is that China is an example of a place in which telcom carriers do impose actual restrictions in using VoIP services.
I understand from your article that the regulator in China do restrict PC-to-phone services. Do you know if there are restrictions, denial-of-services or blocking of PC-to-PC services as well?.

Thanks, Boaz
Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Richard,</p>
<p>I am trying to explore regulatory problems in implementing VoIP technology over GPRS and UMTS networks.<br />
The &#8216;saying&#8217; in Europe is that China is an example of a place in which telcom carriers do impose actual restrictions in using VoIP services.<br />
I understand from your article that the regulator in China do restrict PC-to-phone services. Do you know if there are restrictions, denial-of-services or blocking of PC-to-PC services as well?.</p>
<p>Thanks, Boaz<br />
Israel.</p>
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